Episodes

Thursday May 21, 2026
Wreak Havoc Podcast S5E2 - Are You Using AI Correctly?
Thursday May 21, 2026
Thursday May 21, 2026
In this episode of the Wreak Havoc Podcast: Trevor and Jodi take you through the good, the bad and ugly of AI in sales and marketing. From saving time to cleaning up your emails, AI can be very helpful but we are already seeing the pendulum swinging back the other way due to AI abuse. People are using it to create KNOWLEDGE or to come across as experts. And consumers are seeing right through it. Let's talk about how to avoid that!
Expect blunt insights, mentorship for younger salespeople, and practical takeaways on using new tools responsibly while keeping human connection central. Send questions and topic ideas as they gear up for the next episode.
Contact us @HavocPartners on IG and Info@HavocSales.com

Friday May 08, 2026
Wreak Havoc Podcast S5 E1 Sales Stories, AI & Chicken Math
Friday May 08, 2026
Friday May 08, 2026
Season 5 premiere of the Wreak Havoc Podcast: three industry vets—Trevor, Heather, and Jodi—return with candid, no-BS conversations about sales, marketing, AI, and the shifting tech landscape. They share real-world road stories, trade-organization launches (WICFA), business pivots, and even a few chicken anecdotes.
Expect blunt insights, mentorship for younger salespeople, and practical takeaways on using new tools responsibly while keeping human connection central. Send questions and topic ideas as they gear up for episode two.
Contact us @HavocPartners on IG and Info@HavocSales.com

Friday Mar 08, 2024
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E11Giving Feedback vs Complaining
Friday Mar 08, 2024
Friday Mar 08, 2024
Wreak Havoc is an Honest, Disruptive and REAL look at sales, marketing and business hosted by Trevor Brown @havocpartners on Instagram, owner of Independent Sales Rep Company, Havoc Sales Partners, Jodi Sali @jodisali on Instagram of 16 and West Advertising Agency and Heather Hering Brown @innovativehomesboise AKA The Girl Boss. We discuss the GOOD, BAD, UGLY and AWESOME that is the sales and marketing world but with the intention that by talking about it we can all learn and get better......and sometimes we get sidetracked into REAL stories about life.....and by sometimes, I mean ALL the time!
In this episode we do something we talk about the HUGE problem society has taking feedback. A lot of people hear feedback and automatically hear complaining. If we all got better at taking feedback we could all get better…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc!!
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Tuesday Jan 09, 2024
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E10 Effort Equals Pay
Tuesday Jan 09, 2024
Tuesday Jan 09, 2024
In this episode Jodi is BACK and we talk about the direct correlation between the amount of effort you put out and the pay you receive…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc!!

Monday Dec 04, 2023
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E9 Biz Talk with Super Fan Cel Demers and Josh Demers
Monday Dec 04, 2023
Monday Dec 04, 2023
Wreak Havoc is an Honest, Disruptive and REAL look at sales, marketing and business hosted by Trevor Brown @havocpartners on Instagram, owner of Independent Sales Rep Company, Havoc Sales Partners, Jodi Sali @jodisali on Instagram of 16 and West Advertising Agency and Heather Hering Brown @innovativehomesboise AKA The Girl Boss. We discuss the GOOD, BAD, UGLY and AWESOME that is the sales and marketing world but with the intention that by talking about it we can all learn and get better......and sometimes we get sidetracked into REAL stories about life.....and by sometimes, I mean ALL the time!
In this episode we do something we have NEVER done, we recorded without Jodi but we have some amazing guests, Cel Demers, Marketing and Product Manger for Floor and Home and her husband Josh Demers who owns a large scale lawn maintenance company. We talk about how they keep Biz Life and Home Life separate, the importance of who you surround yourself with, peer groups, business coaches and industry associations…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc!!

Saturday Aug 05, 2023
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E8 Think it ALL the way through!
Saturday Aug 05, 2023
Saturday Aug 05, 2023
In this episode we talk about a bad trend that seems to be taking over, offering up solutions with NO IDEA of how they will execute them. It seems that the world is full of ideas of how to fix the world but they don't seem to think it through. "Great idea! How do we do it?" Come on peeps....think it through…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc

Thursday Apr 27, 2023
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E7 My New Opinion on Direct Sales Companies
Thursday Apr 27, 2023
Thursday Apr 27, 2023
In this episode Trevor talks about his recent experience at the Renatus National Sales Conference. Direct Sales companies tend to get a bad wrap but this company is combining an amazing education based product, taught by real estate industry experts and the reward of sales commissions for conveying to others your success. Maybe the biggest take away was the positive attitude of everyone involved…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc

Tuesday Feb 14, 2023
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E6 End of Remote Worker and IBS Recap
Tuesday Feb 14, 2023
Tuesday Feb 14, 2023
In this episode we talk about our recent trip to Las Vegas for the International Builders Show and how it contrasted to the World of Concrerte the previous week. We also get into the latest phenomena of IN PERSON JOBS….WEIRD!! Is the world getting away from REMOTE workers and getting back to NORMAL??…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc

Friday Jan 27, 2023
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E5 Stories from Vegas
Friday Jan 27, 2023
Friday Jan 27, 2023
In this episode we talk about our recent trip to Las Vegas for the World of Concrete and how many totally different businesses and sales styles we saw. From the BIG BOYS to the little guys to the ladies dressed up like dominatrix getting paid to whip visiting business men…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc

Monday Nov 28, 2022
Wreak Havoc Podcast S4 E4 Adjusting to this CRAZY market!
Monday Nov 28, 2022
Monday Nov 28, 2022
Wreak Havoc is an Honest, Disruptive and REAL look at sales, marketing and business hosted by Trevor Brown @havocpartners on Instagram, owner of Independent Sales Rep Company, Havoc Sales Partners, Jodi Sali @jodisali on Instagram of 16 and West Advertising Agency and Heather Hering Brown @innovativehomesboise AKA The Girl Boss. We wouldn't call it advise as much as we call it RANTING about things we see being done wrong in the sales and marketing world but with the intention that by talking about it we can correct it......and sometimes we get sidetracked into REAL stories about life.....and by sometimes, I mean ALL the time!
In this episode we talk about how do you adjust to this crazy market? We all know things are very weird right now and we don't know when it will change, so we need to PIVOT or adjust to our situation…..Now let’s Wreak Havoc

